Sarah Cruickshank,former chief of staff to Gladys Berejiklian,is asked for more detail about the July 2018 conversation with Ms Berejiklian in which the then-NSW premier told her she had been in a “historical” relationship with the then NSW Liberal MP Daryl Maguire.
She said Ms Berejiklian called her during dinner on July 13,2018,after Mr Maguire had given evidence at an earlier ICAC inquiry.
“I don’t know if she said relationship or friendship,” Ms Cruickshank said.
“I left the conversation with the impression it was more than just a few dinners. I didn’t get the sense it was a full-blown intense relationship but I’m just reading that. It’s awkward talking about this.”
Ms Cruickshank said she was “very surprised and slightly mortified” after the call because she had “given some free character assessments of Mr Maguire” after his appearance at the ICAC.
The ICAC heard in October last year that the relationship between Ms Berejiklian and Mr Maguire in fact started in 2015 and didn’t end until sometime in 2018. Ms Cruickshank said she was “surprised” when she heard this evidence.
Asked what she would have done differently if she had been aware of this at the time,Ms Cruickshank said:“I would have sat down with her and gone through whether or not there were implications for things she had done.”
She said that she would have told Mr Maguire that Ms Berejiklian should not be involved in decision-making in relation to his proposals and she should be kept at arm’s length.
But she said she had never seen anything to indicate favouritism on Ms Berejiklian’s part towards Mr Maguire.
Ms Cruickshank is taken to evidence she gave at a private hearing with the ICAC earlier this year.
She said at the time that her reaction would have been different if Ms Berejiklian had told her the relationship was ongoing,and she would have thought “how on earth can we have a by-election” when Ms Berejiklian had been dating the “fellow” whose resignation triggered the poll.
Ms Cruickshank said today that she can’t recall what she meant by that precise expression but said “it’s a different level of political controversy”. A current relationship “would then have become a focus” in light of the scandal surrounding Mr Maguire at the time.
She said it would have had “potential repercussions for the premier” if she was involved with someone who had a “cloud” hanging over them.
Ms Berejiklian has denied all wrongdoing and is slated to give evidence at the ICAC from Friday.